Jim: Now for Cedric and Mike. My question to you both: Are you prudes? You're both straight men, you're both involved with women -- Cedric's married to Ann, Mike and Elaine live together. Are you prudes? Pig Willy argues you're either for exploiting women or your prudes?
Cedric: I've looked at nude photographs of women before. I would never post one at my website. I would never disgrace women or myself by doing that. When it started, it was one thing and then it morphed into another as Wally and I teamed up for joint-posts but it's never been a sewer. Women can be the butt of the jokes, we do a joint-post that's usually intended to be comic, but we are very aware, Wally and I, that a number of people go to town on women and hold their fire on men. We go to town on men. And most of our joint-posts are focused on the male politician or male reporter that's made an ass out of himself. There is no reason now or ever that I would post any nude to my website. Members of my family, members of my church go to that website. Posting the image Pig Willy did? I'd feel dirty.
Mike: And I think that's what he needed, the way some people get a charge out of having sex in public. Pig Willy needed to get his jollies off via that post. The idea that he was going to humiliate a number of women with that post was behind his selecting that image and using it. In middle school and high school, we looked at porn all the time. If one of the guys got a copy of whatever, we shared it back and forth. And I know my youngest sister was the same with Playgirl and nude males from gay magazines because she and her friends got caught at school with them. And there's nothing wrong with being curious or turned on by the female form or the male form. And there's nothing wrong with writing about sex. But Pig Willy wants to use an outrageous image to increase his traffic, one that has very little to do with anything other than his own legs rubbing together frantically. If I throw a party, I'm not going to post a photo of a nude woman in the hallway -- Elaine wouldn't let me, but I wouldn't even if she did. What would that say to the guests arriving? And what did that lurid image say to people arriving at Pig Willy's website? There was no need for that photo. It divided the readers, it objectified women and it put anyone visiting the site from a work computer at risk of a write up.