Tuesday, July 19, 2016

Truest statement of the week

Bernie Sanders did not lie to his followers; they deceived themselves, just as most of them – the ones that were old enough – had fooled themselves into believing that Barack Obama was a peace candidate and a political progressive back in 2008, although Obama’s actual record and policy pronouncements showed him clearly to be a corporate imperialist warmonger – a political twin of his principal primary election opponent, Hillary Clinton and her philandering, huckster husband.
Back then, phony leftists like Bill Fletcher and Tom Hayden swore on their mothers’ honor that Obama’s campaign was really a people’s movement, a prelude to revolution – as if the Democrats, a militarist corporate political party, could give birth to an anti-corporate, anti-militarist people’s revolution.

-- Glen Ford, "Bernie Sanders Endorses the World’s Greatest (Presumptive) Evil" (BLACK AGENDA REPORT).

A note to our readers

Hey --

Tuesday, Tuesday, Tuesday Weld?

This almost made it up Tuesday morning.

But that's when I (Jim) asked C.I. to type up a transcript to the roundtable.

At which point she told me she might do that Tuesday night but there was no way in hell she was going to do it in the next hour.

Okay then.

Let's thank all who participated this edition which includes Dallas and the following:

The Third Estate Sunday Review's Jim, Dona, Ty, Jess and Ava,
Rebecca of Sex and Politics and Screeds and Attitude,
Betty of Thomas Friedman Is a Great Man,
C.I. of The Common Ills and The Third Estate Sunday Review,
Kat of Kat's Korner (of The Common Ills),
Mike of Mikey Likes It!,
Elaine of Like Maria Said Paz),
Cedric of Cedric's Big Mix,
Ruth of Ruth's Report,
Wally of The Daily Jot,
Trina of Trina's Kitchen,
Stan of Oh Boy It Never Ends,
Isaiah of The World Today Just Nuts,
and Ann of Ann's Mega Dub.

And what did we come up with?

Glen Ford gets another.  And what a truest.
We had no idea on the editorial.  It's the last thing we wrote and we wrote it tonight (Tuesday night).  At some point, C.I. came up with the idea.  And once we had that, it fell into place.
Ava and C.I. wrote their TV piece on Sunday.  They were ready, as they like to point out.

It was time for another roundtable.
Short feature.
We begged Ava and C.I. for a second piece and this is what they wrote.  They're considering doing a Hillary piece each week.  If they do one next week, you won't want to miss it.  They bring up something, bring it back into the public record.  Poor little innocent Hillary?  Not quite.

Oh that wacky War Hawk.
You kept asking about this and we had sampled this back in June so here's another test kitchen.
What we listened to.
IAVA press release.
DAV press release.
IAVA press release.
And Mike and the gang wrote this and we thank them for it.


-- Jim, Dona, Ty, Jess, Ava and C.I

EDITORIAL: And now back to us

Iraq briefly got attention.

It just took approximately 300 deaths for it to get write ups and coverage in the western media.

A little bit of coverage.

And then it was all back to us.

The shootings.

Of civilians.

Of police.

Here in America, in the US.

And suddenly it's all about us again.

But here's some scary reality -- that Iraq War?

That's about us too.

The US government started that war and continues that war and we do not even turn out the streets to protest.

We do not call out Barack Obama for breaking his promise to end it.

We do not call out the precious at all.

And then as we embrace violence with our silence, we are shocked -- shocked -- that the world becomes a little more violent.

We're shocked that the violence comes home to the US.

Oh, we believe in cause and effect . . .

in a laboratory setting.

We just won't recognize how two never-ending wars (Iraq and Afghanistan) have embraced violence and moved our world into a more violent place.

But for a brief, tiny moment, we were almost able to focus on the victims in Iraq.

TV: NETFLIX's next great program

WEEKEND AT BERNIE'S hit US screens in 1989, PORKY'S in March 1982 and ANNIE in June 1982.  Lionel Richie's hit single "Hello" was released February 13, 1984.  Why does it matter?


In the episode "Lainey Loves Lionel," first aired Feburary 10th, THE GOLDBERGS name checks all, more than name checks.  After discussing WEEKEND AT BERNIE'S, they have Adam and his friend buy tickets to ANNIE while planning to sneak into PORKY'S as Barry tries to devise the perfect Valentine's Day gift for Lainey with help from the video for Lionel's "Hello."

This episode's events were all supposed to take place in the same week.

See the problem?

Fortunately, STRANGER THINGS is more firmly rooted in the 80s.

What's that?

The latest must-stream NETFLIX series.

For eight strong episodes, a sci-fi story set in the 80s unfold and involves like nothing since HOUSE OF CARDS.

A group of young boys finish playing a round of Dungeon and Dragons and Will Byers (Noah Schnapp) heads home only to encounter some sort of faceless creature.

The next morning his mother Joyce (Winona Ryder) is telling her son Charlie (Jonathan Byers) to wake up his brother Will.

With Will missing, Joyce refuses to give up looking or accept easy answers.

And his friends Mike (Finn Wolfhard), Dustin (Gaten Matarazzo) and Lucas (Caleb McLaughlin) head off on their own search helped by Elle (Millie Bobby Brown).

Add in a haunted and wrecked chief of police Jim (David Harbour) and a government conspiracy of some form and the intrigue doesn't let up.

Even at the end of the eight episode run, when it appears everything has been tied up, a new loose end emerges.

Sci-fi is very hard to do -- look at all the crash and burns on SYFY, for example.

But NETFLIX has pulled it off.

A huge deal of credit goes to show runners Matt and Ross Duffer as well as to Chris Trujillo, William G. Davis and Jess Royal who've done an amazing job with the look of the show.

But you can't forget the cast.

One natural and real performance after another.

Topped off by Winona Ryder and David Harbour.

Harbour's been dwelling in supporting roles for some time.  Chief Jim Hopper is his first chance to run with a lead and he more than delivers.  We're talking Emmy quality work here.


Her acting choices in scene after scene are inspired and surprising, reminding one and all why she became a star to begin with.

And STRANGER THINGS is a strong reminder that NETFLIX -- with DAREDEVIL, HOUSE OF CARDS, JESSICA JONES, SENSE8, GRACE & FRANKIE, FULLER HOUSE and more -- is beginning the 'channel' you need.


 Jim: It's roundtable time again.   Remember our e-mail address is thethirdestatesundayreview@yahoo.com.  Participating in our roundtable are  The Third Estate Sunday Review's Dona, Ty, Jess,   and me, Jim; Rebecca of Sex and Politics and Screeds and Attitude; Betty of Thomas Friedman Is a Great Man;  Kat of Kat's Korner (of The Common Ills); Cedric of Cedric's Big Mix; Mike of Mikey Likes It!; Elaine of Like Maria Said Paz); Ruth of Ruth's Report; Trina of Trina's Kitchen; Wally of The Daily Jot; Marcia of SICKOFITRDLZ; Stan of Oh Boy It Never Ends;  and Ann of Ann's Mega Dub. Betty's kids did the illustration. You are reading a rush transcript.


Jim (Con't): First off, blogging.  Reader Jose asks why those of you with websites are blogging less these days?

Trina: I don't know.  I just don't have that kind of time.  I wish I did.  And the thing is, after I blog, I suddenly have some idea like, "That's what I should have blogged on instead."

Kat: Me too.  In fact, I've been meaning to blog about the vocal layers on Nick Jonas' new album.  The more I listen to that with headphones, the more I discover.  But it's time to blog, I'm looking through the news and trying to find a topic.

Elaine: Like Trina, I just don't know that I have the time or, more importantly, the desire.  I marvel at C.I.'s ability to cover Iraq every day.  Every day.  No day off.  Every day since November 2004.  I marvel.  But I'm just not there myself.  Now calling out the liars who are suddenly concerned with peace -- the Ron Jacobs who kept their mouths shut throughout Barack's terms -- I can always write about that.  And will.

Betty: I loved that Glen Ford at BLACK AGENDA REPORT called out Tom Hayden this week.  That's good to see.  For the longest, it seemed like it was C.I. and only her.  And Tom deserves to be called out.

Mike: Exactly.  He's such an embarrassment and such a whore.  I mean he loathed Hillary in 2008, have we forgotten?  And now he was telling people to vote for her and not Bernie Sanders?

Ruth: Right.  And, to speak only of me, in 2008 I was telling people to vote for Hillary Clinton.  And if you want to know what changed, it was documented at my website.  I could give her the benefit of the doubt on Iraq in 2008 because what else did I have to judge by?  But then she becomes Secretary of State and is calling for a no fly zone over Syria -- which will require troops -- and she is calling for the destruction of Libya and do not forget Benghazi.

Jim: Now you guys knew early on that it was a CIA Annex.  I remember you talking about that right after the attack.  How?

Ruth: Not right after.  It was probably a month after.  But we were at the first House hearing on Benghazi and the issue was being talked around and Jason Chavetz was saying that they needed to be careful and that this needed to go to special session and I looked at Wally and said something like, "What are they talking about?"  And C.I. looks at us and says, "It's CIA."

Wally: Yeah.   And Ruth's right, she's speaking for a lot of us.  About Hillary and the change.  I mean, I dropped out of college in January 2008 to campaign for her.  But now? No way, no how.  She has a paper trail -- if not an e-mail trail.

Jess: "I'm sick of talking about those damn e-mails!"

Rebecca: Stupidest thing Bernie Sanders ever said.

Marcia: Amen.

Jim: Bernie had some supporters here.

Ann: Well clarify that because Bernie had supporters in the race against Hillary and Bernie also had supporters regardless of Hillary.

Mike: Marcia and I were supporters regardless.

Marcia: Right.  We believed.  And then he sold us out.  I still get angry.

Jim: He sold you out by --

Marcia: Telling us to support Hillary.  If we wanted to support her, we would have.  His campaign was about how she was the wrong candidate.  And then he's all 'let's stand together.'  Uh, no.  In fact, don't stand next to me, Bernie.  I don't trust you.

Mike: Yeah, like he might try to pick our pockets.  I am so disillusioned.  I can't believe it.  And my mother was telling me all along that he was going to do this and that I was putting too much faith in him.  You were right!

Trina: Thank you.  And I think Ann made a good point.  I was a Bernie over Hillary type.  I was not a Bernie is the salvation coming for to carry me home.  A lot of that is due to the lousy job he did as Chair of the Senate Veterans Affairs Committee.

Kat: He was awful.

Dona: I found it interesting that Hillary never hit him there.  But then, if you think about it, she wasn't exactly a champion of veterans in the Senate herself.

Jess: She didn't do much of anything in the Senate.

Jim: So what if Donald Trump gets to the White House instead of Hillary?

Cedric: You want us to make predictions?

Jim: Sure.

Cedric: Hillary's war for sure.

Betty: Mmm-hmmm.

Cedric: Trump probably is as well.  Probably.  So maybe a little less than Hillary, less of a chance.

Ty: Some say Trump is an outsider.  There's something about him that panics the GOP establishment.  Whether that's reason to vote for him or not, I have no idea.

Jim: And?

Ty: Well Andrew Garfield, to name another GOP-er, he was considered an outsider.

Betty: But President Garfield was shot his first year in office and died weeks later.

Rebecca: From infection, most likely.

Betty: Correct.

Stan: Well I'm with Cedric on this, predictions?  Let's go with something of more value.

Dona: Okay, there was a question regarding last week's edition ignoring Jill Stein.  Anybody?

Stan: I don't need Black Lives Matter from Jill Stein.  In fact, as Ann pointed out at her site, it actually angers me from her.  Because I see no sign that she's going to select a running mate who is African-American.  She didn't in 2012.  So I was among those last week saying take a pass on Jill.

Ann: If Black Lives Matter, maybe you pick an African-American running mate?  Otherwise, you're just flapping your gums to get points for being so 'caring.'

Cedric: She could easily name Cornel West as her running mate or, for that matter, Bruce Dixon.

Betty: Or how about Majora Carter?  Or Lisa Jackson?  Or Dr. Marsha Coleman?

Marcia: I am most likely voting Jill Stein.  But I do not want to see a repeat of her 2012 all White ticket.  Sorry.

Ann: Don't be sorry, we agree with you.

Jim: So that's one issue, any others?

Rebecca: Where's the concern for Iraq?  Both in terms of the amount of US tax dollars wasted as well as the ongoing crime against the Iraqi people?  I'm not seeing it.  If you can't formulate a foreign policy, I don't know that you can get my vote.  I am very pro-Palestinian and my vote very much depends upon someone's foreign outlook.

Elaine:  Yeah, we need to see serious talk about peace from anyone who's going to win my vote.  Remember in the 2008 primaries, I voted for Mike Gravel and he was a peace candidate.

Jim: Any other issues?

Mike: I will give her credit and applause for her stance on student loan debt -- we do need to see a bailout on that.

Trina: I was just going to say that.

Jim: Anything else?

Ruth: I will say if you're going to Tweet on every event, you need to Tweet on every event.  Meaning you cannot just focus on this killing or that killing getting massive press coverage. I will leave it at that.

Jim: Okay, then, so will we. You are reading a rush transcript.  We'll try to do a roundtable again real soon.

Clutch the pearls?


Hillary just said what? (Ava and C.I.)

Last week, War Hawk Hillary Clinton had a new point to make in a commercial.

It's actually the same point:  Donald Trump is awful.

She makes that point over and over because she's awful.

The winner of the two of them will apparently be the one who convinces the most people that they themselves are the least awful.


But there was Hillary's commercial quoting Donald saying this and Donald saying that.

And here was the kicker:  The children.

The children.

What is this teaching our children?

What is this saying to our children?


Were we having an acid flashback or was Hillary?

Because we remember that whole children argument.

What is this doing to our children?

How do we explain this to our children?

Only those questions, in the 90s, weren't being asked about what Donald Trump was saying.

No, they were being asked about where then-President Bill Clinton was sticking his penis.

Apparently uninterested in sharing the 'magic wand' with his wife Hillary, he'd taken up with Monica Lewinsky while president.

And he was exposed.

And the nation had to endure talk of blow jobs and sticking cigars in places and so much more because of Bill's tawdry behavior.

So since Hillary's bring up the tired 'what will we tell the children' topic, it must be time for Bill to do some sit downs and for Hillary and him to explain how they're going to ensure that his behavior, if she's elected, is not going to once again subject 'the children' to topics that 'concerned' adults like Hillary want to shield the children from.

Again, she's the one going to the well on this topic.

Donald said some dumb things?

Well most children -- in any country -- are well aware that people say dumb things.

But most children aren't subjected to details about semen on dresses, or blow jobs in the Oval Office or cigars put in places they really aren't intended for.

So, since Hillary's raised her concern for the children, let's follow that up.  Let's get serious.

How are we supposed to believe that Bill will keep it in his pants this time?

Is he going to promise the country?

If so, is he going to offer that should he be caught in yet another affair, he will move out of the White House?

Let's have the conversation now.

Once a cheater . . . .

Hillary Clinton again targeted by that vast right-wing conspiracy!


With Hillary Clinton the target of yet another investigation, she needs someone to blame it on.

Too bad she can't call the US State Department "GOP-controlled."  Oh well, she'll think of something else.

Illustration is Isaiah's  THE WORLD TODAY JUST NUTS "Hillary explains the latest investigation into her actions."

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