Sunday, April 26, 2009
The Dumbness Hurts
Why are some on the left so damn stupid? Because they're truly uneducated. They think they aren't, they think they are so smart that they apparently don't feel they need to do any of the actual work to be informed. Case in point: "Need I say that The Nation was one of the hopium pushers during last year's primary? But at least they didn't trash Hillary the way some others did.-Caro" That's the voice MakeThemAccountable and, lucky for The Nation, Caro's stupidity never will.
They didn't trash Hillary?
Is Caro unfamiliar with Betsy Reed's little screech against Hillary? With Laura Flanders' non-stop trashing of Hillary? With the one-two punch of John Nichols and Katrina vanden Heuvel when Barack made an ass out of himself in 2007 so they -- in one of the first illuminating moments of "the sun is green because we says so" power of the Cult of Barack -- attacked Hillary. (The squabble had seen Nichols squaring off with David Corn. Corn served him his lunch. At which point, Barack supporter behind the scenes Katrina vanden Heuvel disregarded the fact that, as editor and publisher for the magazine, it wasn't her place to say "X is right and Z" is wrong. She said Corn was wrong. Corn now reports and investigates for Mother Jones and The Nation has nothing to offer but bad columnists with bad musing.) Is Caro unaware that The Nation led the war against Hillary? Is she unaware that they began their 2008 presidential campaign coverage before the 2006 mid-term and that they printed one lie and smear against Hillary after another?
Has Caro ever read the work of The Two Aris? Does she not know the way they trashed Hillary?
Is she unfamiliar with the fact that Jeremy Scahill wrote a dumb ass article about Hillary and Barack not calling for an end to contractors in Iraq? An article where he REFUSED to attempt to speak to Hillary's campaign but spoke with Samantha Power (unnamed in the article) who explained Barack 'needed' the contractors if any US troops were to leave Iraq. Is Caro unaware that the article was 'updated' because Hillary did make a promise and so Jeremy did a second installment for The Nation where he again . . . attacked Hillary.
When you're that dumb, it doesn't just hurt you, it hurts everyone. It needs to stop.
Bob Somerby always teases out about how the war on Al Gore was started by the likes of vanden Heuvel and her ilk at The Nation. But he never really bears down on it. He never really takes these liars to task.
And they keep coming back, each election cycle, determined to do more damage. In "2008: The Year of Living Hormonally," it's noted that in 2003, John Nichols went on Democracy Now! and he predicted Wesley Clark wanted the nomination in order to lose, in order for the Democratic Party to lose, so that Hillary could win in 2008. Amy Goodman offered her own 'information' which was that Hillary would strong-arm people at the 2004 convention and force them to make her the nominee. John Nichols and Amy Goodman's fear and hatred of Hillary Clinton, their willingness to engage in right-wing crackery, was on display in 2003 so what the two pulled in 2008 is not at all surprising in retrospect.
And you can read that year-in-review (filled with links) to find out more of John Nichols lies and of the lies of his Nation magazine co-horts. You can find out how when Samantha Power was telling the BBC that Barack didn't intend to stand by his 16-month pledge (which he didn't stand by), John Nichols was distracting (and with lies -- claiming Hillary and Samantha were friends when they had only met once by Sammy Power's own words).
A magazine with a woman as editor and publisher (and with so many women in 'power' positions, as The Nation informed us) might be expected to call out the sexism spewing from MSNBC towards Hillary. Didn't happen. Katrina, to her credit, called out David Shuster's "pimping" remark. She was the only one who did (the magazine has multiple blogs, not just Katrina's). Katha, of course, confessed in one of her own blog posts that 'as a feminist,' she was doing the 'good thing' and not calling out sexism.
"Need I say that The Nation was one of the hopium pushers during last year's primary? But at least they didn't trash Hillary the way some others did.-Caro"
You need to say a lot of things, chief and foremost, "I don't know what the hell I'm talking about, I'm just blowing it out of my ass right now."
Bob Somerby spends forever on cable television. He hints from time to time that he's going to expose the sewer of Panhandle Media but he never does.
What's not being grasped here is that it was the one-note echo chamber of FAIR, The Nation, The Progressive, CounterSpin, Extra!, Democracy Now! and on and on that ripped apart Hillary and pimped Barack.
It was 'the women of The Nation,' Katrina's phrase, who ripped Hillary apart as a feminist, who repeatedly insisted she wasn't one. Every time women showed up for Hillary in a primary, it was time for The Nation to send out one of their so-called 'feminists' to explain how Hillary really wasn't one. "The women of The Nation" never called Keith Olbermann but they claimed to know all about feminism.
"Need I say that The Nation was one of the hopium pushers during last year's primary? But at least they didn't trash Hillary the way some others did.-Caro"
Did Caro ever read the primary and caucus blogging The Nation did?
The Nation needs to be called out for what they did. They are far from alone in needing to be called out. And Caro needs to grasp that if she's not informed on a topic, she doesn't need to weigh in. It is exactly this "Oh, it's The Nation, I don't read it, but it's The Nation, so it must have been good for the left and good for all of us on the left" which allows it to pull the stunt it does repeatedly.
Is Caro unaware that when nutty Barbara Ehrenreich wanted to trash Hillary for religious practices, she did it at The Nation website? She also did it at Aging Socialite's Cat Litter Box which is where Bob Somerby saw it and he offered this, "There ought to be a special circle in hell for hustlers like Barbara Ehrenreich."
And it ought to be right next to the ring of people who peddle stupid.
Highlights

"Iraq snapshot" and "I Hate The War" -- That's C.I.'s Friday snapshot and Thursday night entry. Ty told us there was one vote's difference between the two as most requested highlight to those e-mailing in to this site (thirdestatesundayreview@yahoo.com). We would agree so. We'd in fact, go even further and toss in some other snapshots. Which we in fact are doing.
"Iraq snapshot" and "Iraq snapshot" -- Tuesday and Wednesday's snapshots. Our picks for favorites of the week. In each of them, C.I.'s reporting on a Congressional hearing. You didn't read about those hearing anywhere else. [Ty note added Monday, 4-27, they meant C.I.'s Wednesday and Thursday snapshot, here's the link to Thursday's snapshot.] Except maybe . . .
"Subcommittee hearing" -- Kat attended Tuesday's hearing with C.I. and she, Ava and Wally attended the Wednesday hearing as well. Here she writes a few impressions of the Wednesday hearing.
Isaiah's The World Today Just Nuts "Court-ordered" -- The media's lost but Nelson gets it in this comic by Isaiah. And at his own site, Isaiah dipped into the comic archives to highlight "The 'Fashionable' Condoleeza de Vil."
"Quick post" and "Diary entry" -- Betty's folks are visiting so we're all being cleared extra early. (Betty's folks should visit more often!) She explains some of her hopes and fears in these posts.
"Austism" and "Autism" -- April is Autism Awareness Month and Ruth did two posts on the topic to do her part.
"THIS JUST IN! STRUMMING HIS FATE!" & "Good thing he didn't face Simon Cowell" -- Cedric and Wally on Fidel's review of Barry.
"Fudge Brownies in the Kitchen" -- Trina ways in on the torture memos and offers an easy brownie recipe.
"Ban Ki-moon's homophobia" -- Marcia notices that while Ban Ki-moon issues statements of outrage over nearly every death in Iraq, he never expresses outrage over the murders of gay men. Never.
"The Harman trap," "Jane Harman" and "e-mails" -- Marcia, Stan and Rebecca. Rebecca kicked it off by answering e-mails. One was about Harman and Rebecca offered her take and asked C.I. for a take as well. The next day, Stan and Marcia offered their own. What they covered stands for all of us. Is charges are dropped or the transcript or wire tap is released, we might have something to say. Right now it is just unsourced allegations on something that, if true, would be criminal. We'll wait and see.
"We need prosecution" -- Elaine on torture.
""Matthis Chiroux," "clive james," "Clive Jones," "4274 killed since the start of the illegal war," "Iraq & Clive James," "The say anything Danny Schechter," "War widows" and "Clive Jones" -- the Tuesday night theme post. And questions came in. Ty passed some on. First off, what book did we drop at the last minute? A book of essays by Robert Fisk. Why? Turns out the Nation Books published it. We're not in the business of supporting Katrina. Second, who didn't want to participate? A number of you felt someone was opposed and most of you guessed Rebecca. We can't imagine why you'd guess Rebecca. The person who didn't want to do it was also the woman who got his name wrong. It is Clive James. In fairness to Ruth, Mike also went with Jones. Why didn't Ruth want to do it? She'd read a book she loved as part of our non-fiction theme and was eager to write on that. She did write on it and slid it over to Hilda's Mix.
"The pervs sniffing Eliot Spitzer" -- Marcia, she makes us laugh! :D Well said, Marcia.
"He doesn't understand the law" & "THIS JUST IN! THE LAW CONFUSES BARACK!" -- Cedric and Wally on Barack's inability to grasp things he allegedly taught. (Though Robert Gibbs recently snapped in a White House press briefing that Barry wasn't, in fact, a Constitutional Law professor. Maybe Gibbs was having another one of those bad days.)
Sunday, April 19, 2009
Truest statement of the week
-- Adam Kokesh, "Obama Looks Forward, Sees More Torture" (Revolutionary Patriot).
Truest statement of the week II
-- NLG member and GI Rights Attorney James M. Branum, "Why I regret voting for Obama" (JMBzine.com).
A note to our readers
Another edition completed. First up, last week's note had this added:
Ava, C.I. and Ty: We have added "Truest statement of the week III" Monday, April 13, 2009 because we thought Wally and Kat's comments qualified. We missed those until Monday morning just because we were tired. Be sure to check out their truest.
We were all okay with that. The reason it's Ava, C.I. and Ty is they were the only ones up that early in the morning (it was around five o'clock -- Ava and C.I. are up that early Mondays because they're getting ready to hit the airport to fly out and hit the road). Jess would have sided with Ava even if he didn't agree (Jess and Ava are a couple). So that's four votes (Jess, Ava, C.I. and Ty) and even if Dona and I (Jim) had disapproved, we would have been outvoted. But, for the record, we were asleep (as was Jess) which is why our names weren't on it. C.I. and Ava had to act quickly because they'd be leaving for the airport shortly and, short of waking us up, a decision had to be made. Ty was up and the three of them posted the addition. We are all fine with it and we'll just echo C.I. in saying we wished we had caught Wally and Kat's remarks in time to have posted them last Sunday.
So with that out of the way, onto this week's edition. Along with Dallas, the following worked on this edition:
The Third Estate Sunday Review's Jim, Dona, Ty, Jess, and Ava,
Rebecca of Sex and Politics and Screeds and Attitude,
Betty of Thomas Friedman Is a Great Man,
C.I. of The Common Ills and The Third Estate Sunday Review,
Kat of Kat's Korner (of The Common Ills),
Cedric of Cedric's Big Mix,
Mike of Mikey Likes It!,
Elaine of Like Maria Said Paz,
Ruth of Ruth's Report,
Wally of The Daily Jot,
Marcia of SICKOFITRDLZ
and Stan of Oh Boy It Never Ends.
We thank everyone.
And our content?
Truest statement of the week -- Adam Kokesh. This was an obvious once C.I. and Dallas clued us into it. Which was good because we had huge debates over the truests this week.
Truest statement of the week II -- Jim Branum was among the ones we had debates over. Another statement by him was also up for truest. This one emerged and there was no more debate. However the other statement had tied in multiple rounds with an activist (female), a journalist (female), an attorney (male) and a journalist (male). We would probably still be debating this had the statement we went with not been noticed.
Editorial: Media Whores and Medea Whore -- This wasn't our planned editorial but then we were checking the e-mails and, oh no, she's bothering us yet again. We really do not make a point to think of her. And some said, "Don't even open it." But we did and ay-yi-yi. At least we got an editorial out of it.
TV: Broken or fixed? -- There's so much we planned to cover this edition and didn't have time for. The economy is one example, Social Security is another. By the way, tonight Sunday CBS' 60 Minutes offers: "401K Recession. Never created to be a mainstay of workers' retirement funds, 401ks became just that to millions of Americans who are now facing uncertain futures because of the devastating losses in the stock market. Steve Kroft reports." We had this as a topic and an illustration. We may write it up next week. But Dona wisely realized, while we were making our list of topics at the start of the writing edition, that there was no way we were going to cover everything. What could we farm out to Ava and C.I., she wondered? She took the list to them and they said they'd be happy to handle Iraq's LGBT community but noted that Marcia and Betty and Cedric really were vocal on that topic (which is why we have two features on that this edition). They looked over the rest and said torture and prosecution ("responsibility") would fit with what they were covering because (a) they could grab PBS on this and (b) it is about responsibility and imparting lessons so it does fit with the sitcom they were planning to tackle. But, they added, check and see if others are wanting to work on this topic before they grab it. No. Everyone that wanted to had weighed in Thursday and/or Friday at their own site. Ty, Jess, Dona and I (Jim) were happy to let Ava and C.I. run with it. And that was before we knew what they were going to write. They did not disappoint. This really is a must-read and it's hard, reading it (I've read it three times now), to grasp that they hadn't planned to cover torture all along. Who else but Ava and C.I. would catch that PBS was silencing dissent and silencing the American courts? Amazing. So strong I was tempted to pull out sections on torture and use them for our editorial (Dona said I'd be sleeping on the floor if I did that). Hats off to Ava and C.I. because I know when we were all discussing our torture feature at the start of this edition, we had nothing like this planned. I am truly blown away by this.
Tea Parties -- When everyone gloms on with an attack, Third tends to stick up for whatever's being attacked. That's not me speaking, that's reader Josie who e-mailed Thursday asking if we were going to cover the Tea Parties? She figured we would in some way because of what she'd detected. She was correct. We thank a Dallas community member for the long quote and we thank her daughter for the three photos. You need to look at the large version of the photos (click on them) to see the people between the trees, for instance, in one picture. It is a sizeable crowd.
Papers and David Carr Stuck In The Box -- The David Carr article ticked off C.I. and Ava and me (but me later because I read it after they had already left -- they had circled paragraphs three, four and five in red lipstick -- indicating they were pissed and I should read it). To all of you who have repeatedly complained about NYT's delivery services, we did listen. Dona and I took it into a roundtable for Polly's Brew last October. This was the first time we could work it into an article here but we have all discussed the e-mails and have paid attention to them.
Civil Rights history including 'Now!' -- I like this and I think we all do. We see it as one of the things we do, correct the record. And, honestly, none of us knew all of this (except C.I.) so it was really great. Betty called her father about the song, as we note in the article, and we were all saying, "Do you realize how late it is in Georgia?" She said he'd still be awake and, when he found out it was a musical and Civil Rights issue, he'd want to have been called. He did recognize the anthem once Betty gave him the first lines. Ty's grandmother read it when it went up this morning and has already called to tell us that "back then, everyone knew that song. You couldn't escape it."
The Shirley goes to . . . -- Marcia was the one who suggested this but we were all in agreement with her. Polis earned the honor.
Greta Garbo -- Elaine and Rebecca played around online Saturday and found these photos at the Library of Congress. They brought it in as a possibility. Dona went for it immediately because we have some readers (at least three) who are always asking us to write something about Greta Garbo. So we wrote some copy and tried to include less well known stories and details when possible. The photos are the real focus, however.
Lt. Muthana Shaad's Gay Boy Chronicles -- This is our serial. We probably won't do it every week but we will continue this. Iraq's LGBT community is under assault and we will do our part to draw attention to it and we will do our part to call out those who aid or add to the assualts. (In real life, Lt. Muthana Shaad is a presumably straight police officer in Iraq who is a homophobe.)
Yesterday's Morning Glory Naomi Klein -- We loved Information Clearing House's comments on a Klein article and wanted to include them so we wrote a quick wrap around. Thank Betty and C.I. for the wrap around if it works for you. They are the ones who can remember every line of a movie (in this case, Katharine Hepburn's Morning Glory).
Matthis Stands Tall April 21st -- PSA on Matthis Chiroux. Remember this Tuesday.
Highlights -- Mike, Elaine, Kat, Betty, Ruth, Rebecca, Stan, Cedric, Marcia and Wally wrote this and picked out the highlights unless otherwise noted. We thank them for it.
I could go on forever but Dona says I already have. So that's it and we'll see you next week.
-- Jim, Dona, Ty, Jess, Ava and C.I.
Editorial: Media Whores and Medea Whore
We're going through the inboxes and see she's sent out an mini-opus on her latest 'brush with fame.' Seems Medea, the Foundation Queen and don't we all know about foundations and their actual links, decided to play reporter and show up at a press conference Barack was holding. He brushed her aside but she managed to tease it out. That's not surprising. She's an Attention Whore. And she lacks the talent to be a performer and the looks to be a model so what's left but town crank?
"The only way we will force Obama and Congress to change course in Afghanistan is if we are able to turn public opinion against this war, as we did in the case of the Iraq war," huffs Medea.
What has she been smoking?
Does that idiot actually want to stand by that?
She's saying that if 'we' (somehow she's never the one to do the grunt work, is she?) turn public opinion against the Afghanistan War, Barack and Congress will be forced to end the Afghanistan War "as we did in the case of the Iraq war." Notice that the chicken shit can't even make it "Iraq War." That's how little it means to her. What a pathetic closet case.
Medea, you make it so easy to hate you and we honestly don't until we hear from you and then the waves of repulsion start rolling all over again.
The Iraq War hasn't ended you fool. Do you grasp that? You're telling people to do what they did on Iraq -- not what you did because you dropped Iraq in the summer of 2006 -- and the Afghanistan War will be stopped . . . when the Iraq War continues.
What an idiot.
What a damn fool.
The Iraq War may end at the end of 2011 (more likely it will continue but Barack will tell people it's only 30,000 troops and what does it matter -- it matters to 30,000 US families and it matters to Iraqis). It may not. It sure is sweet of the supposed 'anti-war' 'leaders' to 'moveon' to other topics and allow Barack to do whatever the hell he wants.
Barack's 'promise' is nothing but the Status Of Forces Agreement. The one Bully Boy Bush, Condi Rice and John Bolton strong armed Iraq into taking.
So if Medea's fine and dandy with the dates of the SOFA, she ought to be fingering herself and calling out "George W.! George W.!" over and over.
Nothing changed (but the SOFA can be changed). So Barack presents Bully Boy's plan -- the same plan -- and suddenly it's acceptable? In what damn world?
That should scare the hell out of you regardless of which issue you rank as the most important.
Barack presents Bully Boy's plan on Afghanistan (and Pakistan) and it's acceptable?
Barack presents Bully Boy's plan on (destroying) Social Security and it's acceptable?
Barack presents Bully Boy's plan on war on Africa (it's coming) and it's acceptable?
This weekend, we learned the latest about Kristoffer Walker. He took a stand and found himself standing alone. He called out the Iraq War as illegal and immoral. He stated he wasn't going back. And where was CODESTINK? Where were any of the organizations? Kristoffer was left to stand alone.
He had no support from anyone. Not even from Courage to Resist despite the fact that (a) Kristoffer was demonstrating courage and (b) Kristoffer was resisting. A US soldier home on leave chooses to publicly resist and did you notice how quickly all our 'peace' orgs suddenly started humming, shuffling their feet and averting their eyes?
It was disgusting.
And, sadly, no surprise at all.
We have a lot of Media Whores desperate to get press on themselves. We have very few genuine leaders. One gets the idea that Medea and the rest are okay with the Iraq War lasting well into 2016 as long as they keep getting clippings for their scrapbooks.

If you're not getting how pathetic it is, we've noted war resister Andre Shepherd here and he's been noted community wide repeatedly. For the first time in months, he has actual coverage and . . .
it comes from the BBC.
But, hey, Medea got close to Barack and isn't that what really matters?
TV: Broken or fixed?

In The Motherhood is ABC's new sitcom starring Megan Mullaly (Karen of Will & Grace), Cherly Hines (Curb Your Enthusiasm) and Jessica St. Clair. The three play mothers in this six-week sitcom which may or may not be back next fall. The first episode was a nightmare and even resulted in complaints to ABC from angry parents upset over the 'realities' of Santa Clause being explored in the first hour of prime time. That first Thursday episode did not work and no amount of spin can hide that.
Another thing that really did not work was PBS' NewsHour Friday. Two consecutive segments really underscored this. The first segment was the 'reporting' on the torture memos. For this Margaret Warner sat down with NPR reporter Ari Shapiro for an alleged report. Warner introduced the segment by noting, "In the US and around the world, there was angry reaction today to the Obama administration's decision to release top secret memos authorizing extreme interrogation techniques during the Bush administration and to the decision not to prosecute any CIA operatives who used those techniques."
Despite referring to the anger over "the decision not to prosecute any CIA operatives who used those techniques" in the introduction, that aspect was never addressed. Warner and Shapiro would discuss how "former CIA Director Michael Hayden and former Attorney General Michael Mukasey" objecting to the release "in a Wall Street Journal" column, they refused to note any of the domestic "angry reaction"s. Hayden and Mukasey are quoted but domestic groups are avoided. Yes, an international group was quoted. And we're not foolish enough to believe that some American presented with this topic would give equal weight to the opinions of an international organization most have never heard of: The International Commission of Jurists. The whole point of that unequal "on the one hand, on the other" was to present some international body 'interfering' with (US) domestic affairs versus the concerns of former US government officials. The segment was an embarrassment. We'll praise both the use of Ari Shapiro (NPR needs to be the first go-to for PBS when booking journalists) and the summaries of the memos he provided. However . . .
The segment opened with Warner telling us there was anger over the decision not to prosecute and we never heard about that. Warner and Shapiro did feel the need to lump Obama, Leon Panetta (CIA chief), Attorney General Eric Holder's actions were 'explained' and we also heard more about why the memos should not have been released. At no point did we get an exploration of why there was domestic objection to a lack of prosecution or what that meant.
That silence was not an accident. It was intentional and you grasped that in the crap-fest which followed. We don't generally term segments on The NewsHour a "crap-fest." There are many times when we feel it is to right-wing centered (many, many times). There are many times when we feel it misses the point in discussions. But "crap-fest" is the only term for what Judy Woodruff moderated following Warner and Shapiro's discussion.
Why is that?
It was now time for a panel discussion. As usual, the roundtable leaned right. Leaned right? It tipped over. But we expect that from The NewsHour. What we don't expect is a crap-fest.
A crap-fest, as we explained to two on the CPB when we complained about this segment over the phone Saturday, is a segment which staffs a panel with unqualified panelists.
Neither Ruth Marcus nor Micheal Gerson, two general interest columnist for The Washington Post, were qualified to speak of this issue.
Leaving aside everything else, they were not qualified to speak on this issue. They are not law professors, they are not experts in the field in criminal law or international law. They are two general interest columnists. Ruth Marcus is also a world class eater but this wasn't a cooking segment (though it ranked right up there with those CNN cooking bits for worst Judy Woodruff moment ever caught on tape).
Some might want to say, "Forget what they cover, do you know, for example, Ruth . . ."
Some? A CPB board member. Don't give us Ruth's CV, we're quite familiar. We're also familiar with the rumors -- rumors the press has ignored but which have been all over DC for six years now -- that the Federal Trade Commission had assisted in some form with illegal internet spying. And the illegal spying and the torture are not a la cart issues. They are a combo platter. The illegal spying turned up 'intel' which gave the go-ahead for the torture which turned up 'intel' that led to more illegal spying. The mistake, and any informed person in DC can tell you this, is treating the torture and illegal spying as two different issues when both criminal acts worked together and side-by-side. What does the FTC have to do with Ruth? Jon Leibowitz is her husband, he chairs the FTC.
That wasn't revealed. Wow, Ruth would be opposed to the prosecution of government workers who broke the law. Imagine that. And PBS viewers were never informed that Ruth, insisting government workers shouldn't be prosecuted, was in fact married to the FTC chair. That disclosure not only should have been made, it should have prevented Ruth from being booked on the show.
Michael Gerson was allowed to sit there without the audience ever being informed of his connections to the Bush White House. The Bush White House was the one that okayed the illegal torture so someone who wrote George W. Bush's speeches and advised on policy (and was a member of the White House Iraq Group) from 2001 through 2006.
PBS ignored disclosure but they also ignored the need to book informed guests. There was no excuse for it.
Michael Gerson didn't think the memos should have been released and that there should be no prosecution. Ruth waddled over to the right-of-center to agree with no prosecution but she was glad the memos were out.
Ruth wanted to insist that she was like Barack and to climb on the cross by declaring, "And he opened himself up to a firestorm of criticism from the left that he was -- I know actually how much criticism you can get for this, because I wrote a few months ago that I didn't think these folks should be prosecuted, and I was called a torture-enabler. And I don't think of myself that way. And so the left is very unhappy about the failure of prosecutions. They're latching on to this hope that maybe some of the higher-ups will be prosecuted, and I honestly do not think that that's going to happen."
That may have been the all time low: The torture memos reduced to Ruth's hurt feelings.
Viewers never got told why some domestic groups might object to a failure to prosecute but the program did make time for Ruth to whine and what's less attractive than a fat ass whining on TV?
You never heard the argument for prosecution and you never heard why the memos were released. You allegedly heard legal arguments, you allegedly heard informed discussions, but you really didn't.
This continued on Washington Week where Pete Williams (NBC News) was served up as the expert. Williams informed of the memos, "most of what they described we already knew." Really? Does Williams listen to himself? He doesn't appear to.
One of Gwen's gaggle of male guests (eunuchs?) brought up The Wall St. Journal column and declared that, "Hayden's point was that al Qaeda now knows what the limits of our interrogation policy now are and they can train to them. Is there anything to that argument?"
Pete responded, "Yeah, his logic is that uh that now the bad guys in essence know that we'll try to scare them, we'll try to pretend like we might hurt them but that we really won't. We'll just try to make it really bad and they'll prepare for that and they'll train for that. The -- the administration's argument to that is, 'Well, guess what? We're just not going to do that anymore. They don't believe that this is effective and they believe that it's illegal so therefore it doesn't matter if they train to it because we're not going to do it anymore. Hayden's point, however is that now by this action the Obama administration has tied any future president's hands who might want to do this."
The obvious question to ask after that is, "Pete, you just said that the memos described what everyone already knew. So which is it?" The obvious question is never asked on Washington Week. In fact, you might say Gwen's made her career out of never asking an obvious or needed question (those who doubt it should check out her 2004 and 2008 vice presidential debate moderating).
"The ACLU, which is the organization that sued, their lawsuit caused these documents to be released," Pete said in passing and that was time for someone to holler, "Stop!" No one did.
It was more important that we get Pete Williams offering the CIA's argument, waxing on about how releasing some documents mean others will be requested: "This is the same thing by the way that the intelligence community warned against. They said, 'Once you open this door it's going to be very hard for you to suddenly say no more'."
Despite devoting over six minutes to this topic, Washington Week couldn't broadcast reality. Their web extra (six minutes and two seconds) did a bit better by responding to "Robin in Ohio" who wrote in wondering what the "real reason" for the release of the torture memos was? Pete gas bagged, "I think partly transparency and partly to show that there's a new sheriff in town."
He continued gas bagging at length before winding down with, "Now the other thing is that they were sued by the ACLU so this was in essence a court order."
Yeah, it was a court order.
We'll come back to it. First let's note some of the domestic objections.
Debra Sweet (World Can't Wait): "And, given that Obama is releasing these memos AT THE SAME TIME as he is officially announcing he won't prosecute those who carried all of this out means --in my view - - that nobody familiar with the release of these memos can any longer claim honest confusion about whether or not Obama represents 'change'." The Center for Constitutional Rights president Michael Ratner: "In making the decision not to prosecute, President Obama is acting as jury, judge and prosecutor. It is not his decision to make. Whether or not to prosecute law breakers is not a political decision. Laws were broken and crimes were committed. If we are truly a nation of laws as he is fond of saying, a prosecutor needs to be appointed and the decisions regarding the guilt of those involved in the torture program should be decided in a court of law." National Lawyers Guild member and GI Rights attorney James Branum: "President Obama and AG Holder are in my opinion now complicit in these crimes. Their argument that the CIA agents were relying on legal advice is a crock of ****. I'm sure Nazi lawyers said the holocaust was 'legal' too." When laws are broken without punishment, what message is sent? What precedent is set with Barack's decision? Will future criminals working for the government point out that the US allowed and later admitted to torture, refused to prosecute anyone and, therefore, no government employee or official can now be prosecuted for anything? And Adam Kokesh (Revolutionary Patriot) looks to the immediate future with his observations:
Please consider for just one second why Obama would not seek accountability and establish precedent that torture will not be tolerated. It is because he plans to continue the same basic policies! Obama is working to deny detainees at Bagram their right to habeas corpus. Obama is keeping open secretive prisons within the US called Communcation Management Units in Indiana and Illinois which inmates refer to as "little Guantanamos." Obama has declared his intent to continue the practice of rendition of victims to other countries to be tortured. His largely symbolic closing of the facility at Guantanamo will do nothing to change our image around the world when our travesty of a justice system continues to produce torture victims. Perhaps Bush did not know better, but as a scholar of Constitutional Law, Obama must know that he is crossing numerous lines.
And Adam Kokesh may be correct and is certainly correct to worry. If you're not worried you must have lived somewhere other than planet earth for the last eight years. The American Civil Liberties Union encourages people to "demand accountability for torture" and it's a one-click way to register your objections.
The domestic objections are about the law -- about the need to follow the laws. It's really funny how domestic objection to prosecution was avoided by both The NewsHour and Washington Week but they had time to be the voice of the intelligence community over and over. It's really strange how the actual broadcasts over PBS stations failed to address the fact that a court of law had decided these memos would be released.
Pete Williams whined for the intelligence community as did Ruth and Michael. No gas bag represented the people (but that's a given on PBS) and no gas bag spoke for the people and organizations objecting to the failure to prosecute; however, even more shocking, PBS rendered one branch of our federal government silent: The judicial branch.
The memos were released because a court of law determined they needed to be released. In other words, their release was THE LAW.
It's a point alleged law abiders Ruth, Michael and Pete never thought to address. The rule of law was never explored or even mentioned.
And yet they wanted to pretend they actually had informed discussions, that they actually presented anything of value. As we noted at the top, "Sometimes things just don't work. Sometimes they don't work and they never will." Last week that appeared to describe PBS and its news and public affairs programming.
"Sometimes things just don't work. . . . Sometimes they don't work but they fix themselves." That actually describes In The Motherhood. After a lousy first episode, it's already improved.
Along with the three lead characters, the cast is rounded out by RonReaco Lee and Horatio Sanz.
Megan is Rosemary whose friend Jane (Cheryl Hines) has a manny-nanny (Horatio) and whose sister Emily (Jessica St. Clair) is married to Jason (RonReaco Lee). After the first episode, you'd be forgiven for wondering how and why Jessica St. Clair was hired? It was not a good showcase for anyone but St. Clair came off the worst.
Fortunately, episode two found her on stronger footing and she's also benefited by the fact that stay-at-home Mom Emily now has a strong nemesis. She'd benefit even further were Jason given more time since the two have a realistic chemistry. The character of Jane was weakly written and weakly performed in the first episode. Not badly, just weakly. Hines has found her footing and the writers are getting there. The best moments for her involve Jane in the work environment. Horatio Sanz has consistently been a standout and a surprise in a role that was written as a Murphy Brown cast-off (Eldon).
But the reason to watch from the beginning has been Megan.
Megan Mullaly created the character of Karen Walker who now resides in sitcom heaven and, knowing Karen, probably presides over sitcom heaven -- at least the fashionable parts. Since Will & Grace left the air, she's tried her hand at a daytime talk show and done some guest spots. This is her return. Rosemary is a character that the writers are attempting to feel out. That happened with Karen Walker as well and, as before, Megan had a handle on the role before the writers did. But the writers have proven to be amazingly quick studies. So much so that you have to wonder why ABC didn't just scrap the first episode?
Everyone is so far ahead of what they were doing then that the pilot seems now to have been for another show.
Rosemary is the breakout character. Unlike Karen, Rosemary's not wealthy. She is wild and it's been letting those moments out that have helped take the show from whimsical to gut-bustingly funny. Whether it was Rosemary's punk rock group showing up to play for a school benefit or Rosemary marketing herself as Rose Mommy, a sort of Child Whisperer for on edge mothers, the show has rocked it in a way that you rarely see on TV.
The punk rock group episode was a win all the way around. Jason actually got to leave the house. Emily, who lives a life of perfection, met her nemesis (and things will never be the same). Jane and Horatio had to work through her strengths and her weaknesses and audiences learned to she could snap as quickly as she could simp. If Jane has one weakness, it's being a bit of simp and she really requires Rosemary or Horatio to give her strength in those scenes. (Note, there are child actors in this show. We do not comment on the performances of children -- good or bad.)
This Thursday, Rosemary has a wonderful bit where she laments never being allowed to participate in the children's car pool. (She drives a motorcycle.) It's not the giddy high that her organizing the nannies to unionize was but it's got plenty of laughs. It's also probably the best of the six episodes for Hines. If you checked out the first episode, we'd understand you're being doubtful about giving the show a second chance. On the plus, few of you bothered to check out the show (judging by the ratings). Each week has seen less and less viewers until last Thursday which actually reversed the downward trend. We think that has a lot to do with Rosemary's punk rock band and Emily's nemesis. That strong episode actually resulted in some good word of mouth allowing last Thursday's episode to actually increase viewers.
That could happen every week if ABC would put some faith in this show. The suits are currently attempting to figure out whether to ditch it or fine tune it. We'd argue for keeping it and argue against recasting. The first episode was the problem, not any of the actresses or actors. If they want to fine tune, they can do the smart thing and put it in front of a studio audience.
Some of the fumbling in the first episode would never have taken place if the show had been filmed before an audience. As some of those moments dragged and dragged, writers would have been summoned immediately to create new lines and business would have been improvised. Instead, you had a flat, static pilot. The show reminds us a lot of season one of Newhart. They ended up switching the way the show was shot for the second season which improved things tremendously. They also had the good fortune of Julia Duffy guest starring in the first season and everyone grasping her character (Stephanie) was much more interesting than at least one regular character. As a result, season two opened with a two-parter on Stephanie's return to the inn (and Bob Newhart's character attempting to ghost writer a famous actress' autobiography) which turned the show around. It established the Newhart America would love.
In The Motherhood doesn't need to go in search of a Stephanie character or a Julia Duffy. They actually have everything they need for a hit show except for a studio audience. Comedy really requires an extra spark and one of the reason 'droll' and 'whimiscal' abounds so in all non-CBS comedies these days is because they're insular worlds where the writers perform for one another, for back slaps over how clever they were, as opposed to actually attempting to make the people at home laugh. In The Motherhood needs a studio audience and ABC needs to grasp what it actually is and end its identity panic.
Tea Parties
Wednesday, around the United States, rallies were held. Prior to the rallies, professional idiots/propagandists (just don't call them journalists) such as Rachel Maddow and Keith Olbermann attempted to trash the rallies with ridicule -- while allegedly on air to provide information and not juvenile and lame attempts at comedy. Bob Somerby's called out that nonsense for nearly two weeks now at The Daily Howler.
You didn't have to watch the gutter sewer of MSNBC to hear or read the slurs. (And few watch MSNBC. As Rebecca noted last week, Rachel Maddow is not a TV star, she's a media-created one, propped up by easy, glossy press that fails to note how many MSNBC viewers switch stations the minute she comes on.) "Tea bagging" was suddenly the rage. The morning of Friday, April 10th, 5 US soldiers were killed in Iraq. By the afternoon when C.I. was dictating the snapshot, community members had already e-mailed in about how allegedly left web sites weren't even mentioning the deaths but they were tossing around "tea bagging."
Tea bagging, for those not in the know, is largely a term from the gay culture. Picture a mouth as a tea cup, if you will, and the male 'hang down' as a tea bag and you'll grasp the picture. Were "tea bagging" parties due to be staged? No. The organizers didn't use that term.
But some 'manly' man (trace down that closeted homosexual) on the faux left thought it would be "funny" to use the term. Because gay men are conservatives? Because protesting is inherently gay? Or just because our alleged left leaders love to mock gay men as much as they do all women? (We'll guess the latter. But never forget lesbian Rachel Maddow was cheering the homophobia on.)
And if you're a self-loathing lesbian like Laura Flanders -- one who never said a peep about Barack putting homophobes on stage at the end of 2007 or using them in the general election to scare up votes in the swing-states -- you join in with attacks on the American people. Not attacks on the powerful, as Marcia pointed out, attacks on the American people.
The tea parties, Lying Laura (whose really getting the face she deserves in middle age and that nose is looking more and more like a pig's snout) wanted you to know that the tea parties were about . . . racism. Was she there? Hell no. Was the idiot Arun Gupta there? No. (Arun Gupta is the biggest waste of money and why most donors gave up on the Indymedia movement. But that's another story.) Laura and Arun want you to know the tea parties were about Obama "talked about as not really American, a closet Muslim, a 'sub-prime' president." 'Sub-prime' president would fit because this is the sub-prime era like calling Jimmy Carter the "oil crisis president," for example. Not really American? Doesn't sound like a right-wing slogan, does it?
Because it's not. It's Political Closet Case Laura Flander's idea of what Americans talk like it. Belonging to a political faction that never even sprouted in this country and having been born and raised outside the US, Laura doesn't know the first thing about America or Americans. It's really past time for someone to buy her a ticket home. She and her cats will be very happy back in England.
Laura wanted to insist, "Crazy talk comparing Barack Obama to Hitler went mainstream April 15th." That is so laughable. On The Laura Flanders Show (her radio show prior to RadioNation), she took calls constantly. Any caller comparing Bush to Hitler was not called out. And, thing is, Laura would make those comparisons herself.
She didn't think it was crazy talk when she said it. But she'll be damned if she'll let anyone else operate within the same framework she does.
It's called hypocrisy and when you add that to the rest of her tired bag of tricks, you start wishing one lonely night real soon she'd pull a Judy Garland. She's trashed her mind, she's trashed her image, her pudgy body is all that she has left. For Laura Flanders, the last eight years were about hating George W. Bush and, with him gone, she's transferred her hate onto ordinary American people. Yeah, that'll pull people over to whatever her next pet-cause is.
Trying to find out what the tea parties actually were was near impossible for most Americans.
At wowOwow, Liz Peek explained the basics in "Obama Ignores Tea Parties at His Peril:"
More than 250,000 feisty Americans took to the streets this week to protest high taxes and rising government spending. Curiously, the media -- and the White House -- treated this outpouring of anger as insignificant. Though we are supposed to take seriously Barney Frank's outrage over AIG bonuses, apparently ordinary taxpayers are motivated by some "special interests." Yes they are -- their own interests!
Americans are not stupid. They fear the huge deficits stemming from the budget proposed by President Obama, and they know that someone is going to have to pay for them. Moreover, they recognize that in all likelihood the numbers will only get worse. Indeed, only weeks after the budget was released, the Congressional Budget Office estimated that total outlays would exceed Obama’s projections by $2.3 trillion between 2010 and 2019. And that was before Congress axed some provisions that would have raised revenues.
How big are these future deficits? According to the CBO, the cumulative deficit under the president’s proposals would total $9.3 trillion in that time period. Boiling this down -- really, who can deal with trillions? -- the CBO reports, "Debt held by the public would rise, from 41% of GDP in 2008 to 57% in 2009 and then to 82% of GDP by 2019." Eighty-two percent! According to a Rasmussen poll out today, 85% of Americans are worried about rising inflation -- are we surprised?
A Dallas Common Ills community member was taking her daughter to the public library downtown for a school project and they rushed there arriving a little after 5:15 p.m. The main library in Dallas (it has many branches) is right across from City Hall and they parked beside City Hall ("at the meters because no one checks them after 4:30 p.m.") and were surprised by the crowd in front of City Hall. They had no idea what was going on and the daughter snapped some photos as they headed to the library.
"When we arrived, 'Jesse's Girl' was playing on the stereo system," the mother explained to us, referring to the Rick Springfield hit from the eighties. "We didn't know if it was a picnic or what. All these people were gathered in front of City Hall and there were more coming. As we moved on down the sidewalk towards the library, we saw people in t-shirts and with signs and I realized it was the tea bag thing. I was, honestly, a little scared. I hadn't been following the story but had heard so many outlandish things that I was thinking my daughter and I might be targeted or something [due to race, both are African-American]. We crossed the street and had to make an L to get to the library. As we were waiting to walk, two women and a man, probably in their forties, asked us if we were going to the rally and I explained that we were doing research for my daughter's school project. They were really nice and invited us to come over after we were done. I thanked them and assured them they'd be done before we were because this project is a huge part of the grade for this six weeks period. But it turns out that they were wrapping up when we left. In the library, we were on the third floor because she was researching poetry, we could hear the crowd chanting and roaring. We weren't by the windows. That's how big the crowd was. When we were done it was about 8:15 p.m. and we headed back to the car and the rally was still going on. Some man, I couldn't see him, was making 'jokes' about whether to call their website person the 'webmaster' or 'webmistress' since she was a woman. I thought that was kind of lame. Especially because he had to get in his p.c. dig. But it was a huge crowd and a couple on our street, they may have been the only African-Americans there, walked up to us and asked if we'd attended the rally as well. They were really excited about it and they voted for Barack Obama. I voted for Ralph [Nader]. I asked them, because they're kind of yuppies and really into the Democratic Party events locally if there were others like them attending and they reeled off about 10 names which isn't a lot considering the crowd. Then again, that might have been all they knew. They said they were there because of TARP."

We thank her for her comments and we thank her daughter for the photos. FYI, we attempted to get comments from 15 right-wing bloggers with no success.
Our own thoughts on the event have to do with the critique or 'critique' being offered by a number of idiots.
1) They're in bed with Grover/Karl/whomever!
Who the hell cares if it is true? If Karl Rove sponsored these events (we don't know that he did), who the hell cares? The events weren't "Let's love Karl!" We've never bought into that cowardly crap that we can't go to this peace demonstration or that rally because one of the co-sponsors is ___ (whatever). Who cares? The event was the event. That's why people were there.
2) It was astrorfed!
How idiotic has the left gotten? Or is that what's coming out of the White House's 8:00 a.m. Echo Chamber meetings? Astroturf refers to when a small amount of people flood someone (often a news outlet) with tremendous amounts of e-mail, letters or calls to give the impression that a large number of people are offended. An event can't be astroturfed.
3) Fox 'News' promoted it!
Like Pacifica radio promoted peace rallies once upon a time? Like Air America promotes every fart and giggle from elected Dems? Who the hell cares if Fox 'News' promoted it? They promoted lots of things that flopped. "Promotion" or coverage? We'd love to see our causes get attention and we're sure they'll never get a word of praise from Fox 'News' but we won't begrudge an event that Fox covered and promoted.
4) It was a small turn out! Ha ha!
250,000 people is not a small turn out. 250,000 is an amazing turnout especially on a weekday when you're asking people to show up after many have already worked 8 hours and expecting them to stay for hours and still wake up the next morning and go to work. 250,000 is an amazing number. Good for the people who planned and participated. Congratulations to them on their successful event.
Some may wonder where our criticism of the event is? We think it's been mocked and ridiculed and distorted. That's the main reason this moved onto our topic list mid-week. We think the events were grassroots and that the people participating did so with the best motives. We're far more troubled by the intolerance and ignorance being exhibited by the likes of Laura Flanders, Rachel Maddow and Keith Olbermann.
IVAW's Adam Kokesh never drank the Barack Kool-Aid so you should trust him. He offers his take on the Tea Parties here.



