Why are some on the left so damn stupid? Because they're truly uneducated. They think they aren't, they think they are so smart that they apparently don't feel they need to do any of the actual work to be informed. Case in point: "Need I say that The Nation was one of the hopium pushers during last year's primary? But at least they didn't trash Hillary the way some others did.-Caro" That's the voice MakeThemAccountable and, lucky for The Nation, Caro's stupidity never will.
They didn't trash Hillary?
Is Caro unfamiliar with Betsy Reed's little screech against Hillary? With Laura Flanders' non-stop trashing of Hillary? With the one-two punch of John Nichols and Katrina vanden Heuvel when Barack made an ass out of himself in 2007 so they -- in one of the first illuminating moments of "the sun is green because we says so" power of the Cult of Barack -- attacked Hillary. (The squabble had seen Nichols squaring off with David Corn. Corn served him his lunch. At which point, Barack supporter behind the scenes Katrina vanden Heuvel disregarded the fact that, as editor and publisher for the magazine, it wasn't her place to say "X is right and Z" is wrong. She said Corn was wrong. Corn now reports and investigates for Mother Jones and The Nation has nothing to offer but bad columnists with bad musing.) Is Caro unaware that The Nation led the war against Hillary? Is she unaware that they began their 2008 presidential campaign coverage before the 2006 mid-term and that they printed one lie and smear against Hillary after another?
Has Caro ever read the work of The Two Aris? Does she not know the way they trashed Hillary?
Is she unfamiliar with the fact that Jeremy Scahill wrote a dumb ass article about Hillary and Barack not calling for an end to contractors in Iraq? An article where he REFUSED to attempt to speak to Hillary's campaign but spoke with Samantha Power (unnamed in the article) who explained Barack 'needed' the contractors if any US troops were to leave Iraq. Is Caro unaware that the article was 'updated' because Hillary did make a promise and so Jeremy did a second installment for The Nation where he again . . . attacked Hillary.
When you're that dumb, it doesn't just hurt you, it hurts everyone. It needs to stop.
Bob Somerby always teases out about how the war on Al Gore was started by the likes of vanden Heuvel and her ilk at The Nation. But he never really bears down on it. He never really takes these liars to task.
And they keep coming back, each election cycle, determined to do more damage. In "2008: The Year of Living Hormonally," it's noted that in 2003, John Nichols went on Democracy Now! and he predicted Wesley Clark wanted the nomination in order to lose, in order for the Democratic Party to lose, so that Hillary could win in 2008. Amy Goodman offered her own 'information' which was that Hillary would strong-arm people at the 2004 convention and force them to make her the nominee. John Nichols and Amy Goodman's fear and hatred of Hillary Clinton, their willingness to engage in right-wing crackery, was on display in 2003 so what the two pulled in 2008 is not at all surprising in retrospect.
And you can read that year-in-review (filled with links) to find out more of John Nichols lies and of the lies of his Nation magazine co-horts. You can find out how when Samantha Power was telling the BBC that Barack didn't intend to stand by his 16-month pledge (which he didn't stand by), John Nichols was distracting (and with lies -- claiming Hillary and Samantha were friends when they had only met once by Sammy Power's own words).
A magazine with a woman as editor and publisher (and with so many women in 'power' positions, as The Nation informed us) might be expected to call out the sexism spewing from MSNBC towards Hillary. Didn't happen. Katrina, to her credit, called out David Shuster's "pimping" remark. She was the only one who did (the magazine has multiple blogs, not just Katrina's). Katha, of course, confessed in one of her own blog posts that 'as a feminist,' she was doing the 'good thing' and not calling out sexism.
"Need I say that The Nation was one of the hopium pushers during last year's primary? But at least they didn't trash Hillary the way some others did.-Caro"
You need to say a lot of things, chief and foremost, "I don't know what the hell I'm talking about, I'm just blowing it out of my ass right now."
Bob Somerby spends forever on cable television. He hints from time to time that he's going to expose the sewer of Panhandle Media but he never does.
What's not being grasped here is that it was the one-note echo chamber of FAIR, The Nation, The Progressive, CounterSpin, Extra!, Democracy Now! and on and on that ripped apart Hillary and pimped Barack.
It was 'the women of The Nation,' Katrina's phrase, who ripped Hillary apart as a feminist, who repeatedly insisted she wasn't one. Every time women showed up for Hillary in a primary, it was time for The Nation to send out one of their so-called 'feminists' to explain how Hillary really wasn't one. "The women of The Nation" never called Keith Olbermann but they claimed to know all about feminism.
"Need I say that The Nation was one of the hopium pushers during last year's primary? But at least they didn't trash Hillary the way some others did.-Caro"
Did Caro ever read the primary and caucus blogging The Nation did?
The Nation needs to be called out for what they did. They are far from alone in needing to be called out. And Caro needs to grasp that if she's not informed on a topic, she doesn't need to weigh in. It is exactly this "Oh, it's The Nation, I don't read it, but it's The Nation, so it must have been good for the left and good for all of us on the left" which allows it to pull the stunt it does repeatedly.
Is Caro unaware that when nutty Barbara Ehrenreich wanted to trash Hillary for religious practices, she did it at The Nation website? She also did it at Aging Socialite's Cat Litter Box which is where Bob Somerby saw it and he offered this, "There ought to be a special circle in hell for hustlers like Barbara Ehrenreich."
And it ought to be right next to the ring of people who peddle stupid.